At MSU’s wide range of business colleges, taking Computer Science Engineering (CSE) 102 courses had to be applied to universities. Over the years, the course has gained a negative reputation among business students for being extremely difficult.
However, starting from the Fall 2025 application cycle, CSE 102 will no longer need to be applied to Broad. This course is no longer listed in required courses on the Broad College of Business website.
Senior students who had already taken the course to be admitted to the university expressed mixed feelings about the changes in requirements.
Finance sophomore Rishi Rai said he felt CSE 102 was “arguably the most difficult class.” Rai said there should be some type of alternative to deleting courses.
“If they’re going to remove it, they’ll do some sort of replacement,” Lai said. “What I learned in class, especially in Python, is an important aspect of how the market and industry moves forward in any industry.”
Economics Senior Luke Syszs said students who have already taken the course may feel upset over the removal of the requirements.
“For those who have already received the class, it was definitely difficult, so I think it’s kind of unfair,” Chijewicz said. “Most people who take part in finance, economics, accounting, marketing, etc., don’t necessarily need coding, whether it’s the main one… I want them to be exposed to these types of things, but it doesn’t make sense to have it happen in the first place and they take it away.”
Matthew Davis, a sophomore in economics, also considers the decision to be unfair for students who have already taken the course, especially given the impact the course had on his GPA.
“I was a bit mad at how it had a negative effect on many of us, but now there’s an opportunity that doesn’t happen,” Davis said.
Ciszewicz said he was happy with freshmen who watched past his initial frustration and did not need to take the course. Ciszewicz disagrees with the idea that incoming classes should take courses simply because older generations did.
“I hope that future generations coming to Michigan will not need to take that course if they go to finance, economics and accounting routes,” Ciszewicz said. “I think it’s a good thing they’re not taking it.
Some students said removing the course requirements could also serve as a loss to underclassmen. What students learn at CSE 102 is beneficial for majors within a wider business college.
“The idea of understanding how arguments work just like Python itself sucks, has become really applicable to the financial classes I’m currently doing,” Davis said. “I think you’re certainly missing that, because understanding Excel, understanding it, how its functionality works, or how its functionality works, is really important to see modern business.”
Some students were surprised by the decision to remove the MSU requirement that they saw it coming due to poor grades reported on MSU grade. Rai said he was hoping for some kind of curriculum change, but the removal of the requirements was surprising.
Additionally, Rai said he does not believe removal would be beneficial.
“I don’t think this is a good decision just because I think the course is very important,” Rai said. “I think Python elements are very important in applications, like testing.”
Meanwhile, Aryan Katial, a freshman in economics, believes that this removal opens new possibilities for more students.
“I think people were misunderstanding about a wide range of things,” Katial said. “This will definitely open up a little bit for more applicants.
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